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Post by jmanuel on Jul 7, 2011 19:54:06 GMT -5
What are the pros and cons of taking probiotics? Every doctor that I have seen tells me to take them. Are there any risks? I seem more bloated after taking them. I've read that certain strains can convert to lactate which can create a very acidic gut environment. Maybe if I only take strains that don't convert to lactate, that would be safer.
Best, Jill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 23:21:19 GMT -5
Hi Jill, I would stop taken the probiotics and look what will happen. Are you taking them in yoghurt or something similar? In general, if somthing causes problems I would avoid it for some time and see, if some symptoms disappear. I read a while ago an article about good bacteria in the digestive system. If their surrounding/living conditions changed, they would produce even more free radicals in order to fight against it. So maybe the probiotic bacteria may join them and cause some trouble. I am sorry that I can't remember where I read these informations. Best Namid
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 23:36:59 GMT -5
Just stumbled over this article, which informs why probiotics are good. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20806430Hegazy SK, El-Bedewy MM. Effect of probiotics on pro-inflammatory cytokines and NF-kappaB activation in ulcerative colitis. World J Gastroenterol. 2010 Sep 7;16(33):4145-51. Abstract AIM: To demonstrate the therapeutic effect of probiotics in patients with ulcerative colitis (UC), and their effect on inflammatory mediators and nuclear factor (NF)-kappaB activation in these patients. ... RESULTS: At the start of the study, colonic mucosal injury and inflammation were demonstrated in UC patients by hematoxylin and eosin staining, and an increase in colonic MPO activity, fecal calprotectin, and expression of colonic TNF-alpha and NF-kappaB p65 proteins. The use of probiotic for 8 wk significantly ameliorated the inflammation by decreasing the colonic concentration of IL-6, expression of TNF-alpha and NF-kappaB p65, leukocyte recruitment, as demonstrated by a decrease in colonic MPO activity, and the level of fecal calprotectin compared to sulfasalazine group and the control group (P < 0.05). CONCLUSION: Oral supplementation with probiotics could be helpful in maintaining remission and preventing relapse of UC.
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Post by jmanuel on Jul 8, 2011 13:22:42 GMT -5
Hi Namid,
Thanks for the advice and links. I'll try stoping them like you said and see how I feel. I've also read that the probiotics can grow as mold in the body if they are not fresh. Yikes. There seems to be a few brands that you don't have to worry about this happening. So many things to think about!!
Take care, Jill
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Post by beebs on Jul 9, 2011 4:20:03 GMT -5
What are the pros and cons of taking probiotics? Every doctor that I have seen tells me to take them. Are there any risks? I seem more bloated after taking them. I've read that certain strains can convert to lactate which can create a very acidic gut environment. Maybe if I only take strains that don't convert to lactate, that would be safer. Best, Jill Hi Jill There are many reasons why I don't take probiotics. I am not basing this particularly on any articles, but rather my own symptoms, which would be made worse by probiotics. Advised would be to read and analyze, and more importantly, your own symptoms, and how probiotics would help or not. Below are some studies why probiotics can be harmful, as well as a link from an article which questions the benefits of taking probiotics. (there are many more). The author raises valid questions re: probiotics: "The literature is loaded with information that the small and large intestines "supposedly" have "good bacteria" which are healthy. If that were true then those good bacteria would make the intestines acidic, which interfere with digestion instead of aiding digestion. Like the mouth, such "good bacteria" in the intestines is a sign of poor health due to an excess of glucose (sugar), lack of oxygen and mostly because of indigestible carbs (plant foods) that humans are not able to digest. Very little is left of foods at the end of the small intestine, which mainly consists of undigestible carb fibers, undigestible sugars, residues of secretions, dead cells (the intestinal lining regenerates itself every 4–days, so there's a lot of dead cells), and water. The main functions of the large intestines are to absorb water from the remaining indigestible food matter, to digest undigestible matter which requires the creation of bacteria and yeast, and to pass useless waste material from the body. Therefore, it is only logical that "good bacteria" (probiotics) are created by the intestines itself when they are necessary, just like our bodies create viruses, bacteria, candida (yeast) in order to clean itself up. However that idea is totally foreign to people today who believe in the false germ theory of disease - see The Germ Theory of Disease is False In any case, taking probiotics by mouth cannot affect the large intestine in any way, since probiotic supplements are digested just like any other foods that contain protein, fat and carbs. "If" probiotics are important the only way to introduce them into the large intestines is by an enema. There is also evidence that some people have no probiotics in their intestines whatsoever yet they are very healthy. Our bodies are smart enough to balance out all nutrient, hormone, water, etc. levels if we treat them according to Nature's Laws on Health by consuming "proper nutrients," and eliminating toxins and damaging foods. Our bodies are also smart enough to create probiotics, i.e. "good bacteria" when, and "if," they are needed. " www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/probiotic1.php www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1899232www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18390430journals.lww.com/jpgn/Fulltext/2004/10000/Two_Cases_of_Lactobacillus_Bacteremia_During.27.aspxwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC84537/
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